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DEMF sets

The Ninja — Sat, 23 May 2009 12:33:31 +0000

The organisers of DEMF 08 are streaming some of the sets from last years event here: http://www.paxahau.com/sounds/mp3/2008_movement.html

Guillaume & The Coutu Dumonts is particularly worth a look in. As is DBX at DEMF08

You can download most of them from here if you feel the urge: http://www.djscene.lt/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30503&sid=ede02cfcf727ea873492c809764b2df6

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Radio just isn’t the same anymore……….

The Ninja — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:56:27 +0000

Members of the midnight funk association, please stand………

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Life tips from a drunk disconinja

Lelo — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:32:16 +0000

Tip: Don’t do hand stands on the beach after drinking

“I haun been put in a taxi home”

Tip: Taxi drivers don’t care about techno and don’t know much about detroit

“I would but I just want some cheese burgers”

“Not even. I still don’t have cheeseburgers”

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Stink-Finger Debate #01: Detroit, Ewan Pearson and Redshape

Lelo — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:51:00 +0000

discuss…

Mick: I’m seeing Ewan Pearson this weekend, for free!
thinking Redshape would be way too banging at Berghain for my taste.

Drake: Man – his shit is the hotness, perfect location for it….

And is less banging than Eqan Person can get! heh

Think Pearson will be too epic for panormaa, it suits more subdued grooves of a berlin nature methinks to be truely hot, tho it’s an ace space for anything.

think berghain room on a kompakt night

Mick: Pearson plays to suit the venue. He’ll mack it.

Websta: your love fer pearson weirds me out.

Mick: Either of you seen him play?

Drake: Yeah, he’s ok… if on the cheese side of dance for my tastes. is an ok producer now and then too… tho again, he’s always got that jack lu cont of 2007/08 vibe about him. Talented sure. but I’ve never heard a great mix from him, lots of nice songs, but up against the top djs he’s pretty safe….

How many times you seen him?I’ve heard a couple of dozen sets… none which light up much.
Don’t have to see someone to have an opinion….You seen redshape play at berghain?

The Ninja: *comments banned*

Mick: True. I’m just basing my opinion on what i’ve heard be played at Berghain and what i’ve heard of Redshapes production. Only really loved Ultra.
Totally agree on Pearsons production over the last few years. Too stringy and can see why people would dismiss him. But can honestly say that as a live dj, he’s the man.

Websta: meh, redshape and pearson are both rubbish, but at least pearson don’t wear a spack gladiator mask……

Benny: I still think some people would challenge that choice of words wayde.
Ewan Pearson is awesome for his remix of goldfrapp train if nothing else. More people need to bite ‘i feel love’

Drake: There is no other artist on earth that suits Berghain more…
And Wayde, I really pity you if you for not having taste in quality music. Must truly suck to know that you don’t chose good lasting music and that everything you like turns out to be shite after a while.

Websta: examples? i heard a truckload of redshape stuff didn’t even like the `hit’. mind you i got over detroit in the 90′s….

Drake: Weren’t you the one who got Redsahpe vinyl? You have called moodyman rubbish, even tho you used to like it. You have called countless others rubbish, even though you used to like them….

It’s all very confusing for people. I guess it’s because if people like something well enough to endorse it, it’s not very often they will turn around and call the same thing rubbish a while later. They might grow out of it, but to have so little faith in your own taste is very strange.

One can’t help but wonder when RPR will become ‘rubbish’ for you? (probably in 3 months time when their residency at Fabric gets going properly away from ricardo).

I already know they won’t last, in fact, I think everyone here knows that. They play very safe, now music that is not very musical, and won’t be remembered beyond a few eastern bloc clubbers and a couple of ex-fabric folk. Every berlin DJ can spin like they do, for as long, with the same music. If they were Hans, Henrik and Jens then they wouldn’t even be on anyone’s radar. Doesn’t mean that they are shite. And I won’t say they are shit in 2 years time, but I’ll bet money you will call them shite in 2 years time. But there are plenty of way hotter talents out there (Tanzman, Serafin, Quarion, Reboot, Johnny D) who are pushing the tech-house roll style with a lot more flare, musicality, and longevity.

Considering Redshape outsells most other artists around at present, and gets charted by a fuckload of people, his sound is fairly relevant today I’d say…

Websta: Yes i have 1 12″, simon left it for you at my house… so technically its yoursand yes thats a point well missed Matt.

I do love moodymann rpr etc etc but 99% of artists at some point lose the focus, drive, edge that they initially had. I don’t stop liking the old stuff but i do not blindly keep loving them if they start to release rubbish. Example : I like the rolling stones. When? 60′s or the 2008 version? are those 2 versions of the stones the same?

If Rpr start to release crap records i shall stop caring and move on to whatever it is that gets me excited. I have no favourites and no need to cling to dead heroes.

Why do you?

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An ode to Detroit…..or not

The Ninja — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:06:09 +0000

Over the last few weeks, as happens following every DEMF, the inevitable arguments seemed to have flared up again about the roots of techno and the part Detroit plays in the overall scheme of electronic music. To summarize the argument, it basically holds that Detroit should be recognised as the home of techno and without Detroit, there wouldn’t be techno.

If you want to really get into it, there is an interesting 4 part writeup at mnmlssg, with 4 somewhat differing viewpoints on the subject. (Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4).

My take on it? To be honest the argument pisses me off more than anything else. Not so much as in being on one side or the other, more around the fact that people seem to be so hung up on the question itself. Don’t get me wrong, knowing how you got to ‘your’ sound is vitally important, it helps you define who you are and how you got to this point…..but history is history, not something you need to get so hung up on and/or cling to so strongly that it leaves you paralyzed and incapable of moving forward.

Its one thing loving a particular sound, it is another to limit yourself to that sound and only that exact sound. Pigeon holes are for narrow minded rednecks. Music should never be narrow minded.

Detroit definitely deserves its credit…..its where this high tech soul music started out, hell its even where the term “techno” got coined (Juan Atkins used the word to describe the sound to a reporter). People should know where it came from and should know the names of those that were at the forefront, pulling together all those soul, jazz & funk elements and combining them in new ways with futuristic robotic & machine based sounds to make this new thing called t-e-c-h-n-o.

Does this mean that we have to acknowledge Detroit as a vitally important place for this electronic music thing. Hell YES!

Does this mean we all have to keep listening to the same records 20 years on? FUCK NO.

From my standpoint, I have nothing but respect for Detroit, the music that came out of Detroit and the influence it has on everything I listen to today. For the last 3 years in a row, I’ve tried to organise a pilgrimage to Detroit for the Detroit Electronic Music Festival without any luck (it will happen……hopefully before the lineup looks something like “Moby b2b with Chemical Brothers and Jeff on Sax”). But that said, do we really need to be so stuck in the past that we can only listen to something that comes out of a single geographic area? Wasn’t the whole idea behind techno to create futuristic music that crossed boundaries and moved us all forward? Do we really need to take continual potshots at those outside of Detroit, and slag them off as crackers that don’t understand the music? Do we really need to be arguing about this at all?

Not quite sure what the point of this rambling post was, but I’m glad I got it off my chest.

For those that haven’t seen it, I’d thoroughly recommend watching the High Tech Soul documentary which looks at the roots of techno and the history of Detroit. There is also the Universal Techno documentary which you can see over here.

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